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Posted on 2018-01-13 01:18:45 | Show thread starter's posts only

Well, since everyone's pretty much have their wish list going about, I guess I can voice a few tidbits from my station to all:

New Server. This is the topmost response to breathe life back into a game that we all love. I am all for a new server sans transfer of characters from the old servers. This will most definitely get folks to spend for IM based items, especially e-remotes since that was the hot commodity of all time. Two or three branches of the new server will be sufficient to allow for breathing room for everyone (and their alts, since many of us tend to have our own teams when developing, resource gathering, and/or doing other things) when it comes to training at spots. Having one branch does put a damper on things, especially if there are those who are starting new but couldn't find a training spot due to the overcrowding. Also, to be fairly honest, when I see something in the yellow or red, I often fear that the server will kick out people inadvertently just to make room for the new ones or just deny the new ones from creating or logging in.

Events. Yeah, I am a fan of such, but after reading about such things, the last time WLO had an event was somewhere in 2012; and since then, it's been stale. Many of us enjoyed the Christmas, Valentines Day, Mother's Day, Halloween, Thanksgiving, and any other holiday that wasn't mentioned in between that many had participated in such. I am hoping there will be a return of such to keep the game alive.

Incentives. For those of us who have been loyal in playing the game, we should be rewarded for such. For those of us who put forth money in this game, we expect "in-kind". No incentives equals folks wanting to leave or put this game on the shelf. And by the show of support in the last forum post in putting a stop to the axe that otherwise would kill the game, I think we can get better. This game is being loved, therefore it should stay. Getting more people in would depend on everyone, and not just one side.

Stricter Punishments. IGG dropped the ball when they dropped out of the Live Support thing. They even dropped the ball further when they allowed the duping situations (yes, there has been more than one for as long as I can remember) to burn like wildfire to the point they could not do anything about such. I am hoping more GM involvement when it comes to real-time reporting of issues as well as the pro-activity of the support staff when resolving issues and/or dealing harsher punishment for things that violate the terms of service.

Better Forum. Sorry, but this cheapo won't do. Half the things don't even work correctly that it looked like garbage in the end. I liked the old forum layout much more because we can make our posts stand out instead of looking like generic email posts.

These are some ideas from the top of my head. I am hoping there will be more as time goes along, but only if everyone decides to be on the same page.

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Posted on 2018-01-20 03:51:16 | Show thread starter's posts only

Let's summarize problems and soltuions offered so far:

1) New Server option:
Some people are debating over the possibility of having a new server, seeing this as the only solution of getting rid of so called "dupers", people who obtain expensive in-game Item Mall items and burst levels in a non-legit way, dupers though, have covered the most of the servers, and now represent the most part of the playing characters. Considering even many legit players have bought duped items (due to legit trade) it would be really hard to get rid of all characters which previously violated the game rules through duplication of IM items.. (xAmyAsuna) it would be more reasonable instead to find, if possible, what were the duplicated items and erase them from game, (Snowflake22) if there are specific item codes, but again, this probably looks undoable. So, in order to prevent an unfair challenge between OP characters (with full duped IM equip, using third party non-legit programs) and normal players (who bought equip through IM, using real money)  some people state it would be better to have a new server without the possibility of transferring characters and starting all from lvl. 1.
Against this, other people claim that it is not fair to let the old, hard trained characters in a world where they are in competition with full dupers, basically spoiling the pleasure of playing with your old trained character. (landmine36) Others arguabily state that forcing people to start all over again is not a solution to have the "old players" back to play.. since they could as well start another game, most of them might been playing other IGG games so they unlikely might want to start all over with their character.
To the former I would add that, a new server would soon be fooded by dupers so, most likely it would be useless in this state of things.

So the new server might not be seen as an immediate option. it has to be implemented, but not yet, and not in these conditions.

2) Rollback option:
Other people suggest a server "rollback" as option, that is, to leave the dust on the server backup, bringing the game to the state which was before being flooded by dupers. This would be practically impossible as it would demand IGG to have kept a backup of several years ago, and it would bring all of the characters, money, IM points, items, quests, NPC all, back at their previous state.
Some people oppose stating this cannot be done because it's very hard that IGG might have kept those saved data, but mostly because it could mean a massive refund policy.

Actually, if they kept that saved data (backup which they always do before a maintenance or a merge) and if they could give a bonus to every player account which is affected by that characters change, for example, a fixed amount of IM or some special pets or items, it might be done. But the main problem is, again, that the game would be again flooded by dupers.

3) More control over the game:
Some other people suggest that a GM must be online to ensure and enforce the respect of the game rules, (Kitty) and that the game should be heavily updated, others suggest more old glitch fixing and anti-hack software, (braolet) and others a more cooperational Live Support (xenonigredo).

Anything else?

Please check this thread: http://wl.forum.igg.com/topic?fcid=21&ctid=98292&nfid=0

The thread in brief:

This thread aims to collect the moods and opinions expressed in the forum lately, and eventually to sort out a solution for the current WLO situation.

The first thing to do is to stop the illegit programs from working into WLO environment.
The opening of a new server is not a solution, it is a palliative.
If you do not correct the scripts and if you do not implement anti-third parties softwares, your nice new server will be flooded by duplicated items again. And once you correct the scripts and hacks problem, you might not need any new server as well.

The following order, should IGG decide to follow it, might be reasonable:

Phase 1: Heavy game debugging, getting rid of bugs, glitches, improve game security and introduce anti hack softwares.
Phase 2: Heavy restructuring of the game, ig economy, more content update, temporary limitations on servers contacts.
Phase 3: Heavy advertising on the main social media, and opening of the new server, but with temporary restrictions.

Only after having implemented heavy anti-hacking, anti-third party programs measures you can start a new server.

Upon Flame's suggestion, I would like to ask xAmyAsuna, what she thinks about the idea of merging the two threads ([Experience Discussion] PLEASE READ AND CONSIDER + New WLO guidelines according to Players Community members)

"Forever Red"
Posted on 2018-01-20 11:04:06 | Show thread starter's posts only

I don't mind it either, but what do you exactly mean that it is not an option?

I noticed this new forum is really bad, no poll possibility, no post editing (or yes?) .. very simple style (not to tell about safety issues).

Perhaps though, a moderator might turn your thread "[Experience Discussion] PLEASE READ AND CONSIDER" http://wl.forum.igg.com/topic?ctid=98184&crid=1812181&ccid=7872&p=1 into a "sticky" always on top thread, so it can get everyone's attention..
After all it's about Community suggestions for game improvement so it would benefit everyone..

"Forever Red"
Posted on 2018-01-20 13:22:39 | Show thread starter's posts only


"To the former I would add that, a new server would soon be fooded by dupers so, most likely it would be useless in this state of things."

Hold on, let me quote you on something. I assume you meant flooded.
You ever heard of the meaning "clean slate" ? 
Yes you might have players who duped before in that new server, but you wouldn't be able to dupe. Of course, you have to ban transference of characters to the new server as well.
So it isn't useless like you claimed it is. 

Let's be honest.. People who duped are most likely people who can't rely on themselves in the first place. They would have suffered more than players with real experience in this game.

I don't get you. Do you have no opinions for yourself? I have seen you copy and paste people's opinions. Never really seen you copied mine which is a good thing considering my opinion always ended up on the HARSH end.(Yes Harsh, Deal with it) Yes i do agree some points from landmine does make sense though(i didn't say all, so don't be too happy Landmine, It is those points that i debated back to you is the key factors. The rest are minors)

Posted on 2018-01-22 09:36:10 | Show thread starter's posts only

"would"..."if it is necessary" :ermm: Not enough for me...I'm still gonna spam them daily (cuz ofc I have the most intresting life on earth)